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eljer · Apr 30, 2008, 10:22 PM // 22:22

Though wands aren't high-demand items, this dropped for me right before factions came out

MisterB · Apr 30, 2008, 10:32 PM // 22:32

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Originally Posted by GenericWasDanny

for example, a person weilding a require 7 with 12 swordsmanship will not have a higher chance than a person with a require 12 and 12 swordsmanship to score a critical hit

Fixed it for you.

Jetdoc · Apr 30, 2008, 10:34 PM // 22:34

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

There's only one thing I've never seen from that list - a req.7 staff - but I remember a reputable source confirm he had seen one. I'd still like to see a screenshot, this may be the only 1 ingame.

And theoretically, if a req.7 staff was possible, a wand might be just aswell, but it's not that obvious - staffs' base values seem to be connected with each other in the generating algorithm (need more data to confirm).

There's a req 7 Evil Eye Staff for sale in High End right now. It's the only one I've ever seen, and I'm pretty sure this one is for real.

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

But regardless, anyone who runs 7-8 weapon mastery is an idiot.

Actually, my warrior occasionally (albeit rarely) uses a build or two when he solos without heroes and henchmen that actually functions better with a 7 or 8 weapon mastery attribute. I generally agree with you, but there are rare occassions (definitely not worth the cost, however) where the lower requirement might come in handy.

Malice Black · Apr 30, 2008, 11:38 PM // 23:38

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Originally Posted by Da Tru Legend

I'm wondering what the lowest possible reqs are for max weapons (different for non-inscrs and inscrs ofc).

Non-inscribables:
Sword - Req 7 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10282942)
Axe - Req 7 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10282942)
Hammer - Req 7 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10282942)
Bow - Req 8?
Daggers - Req 8?
Staff - Req 7 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10284168)
Wand - Req 8?
Focus - Req 7
Shield - Req 7

Inscribables:
Sword - Req 8
Axe - Req 9?
Hammer - Req 9?
Bow - Req 9?
Daggers - Req 9?
Staff - Req 9?
Wand - Req 9?
Focus - Req 8
Shield - Req 8
Spear - Req 9?
Scythe - Req 9?

The ones I have listed are the lowest reqs I have seen so far. If anybody has seen lower reqs than the ones I have a question mark listed next to, please say so (and give a screenshot for proof as well). If you're wondering about where I got some of my reqs, you can probably find them on the Sell or High End forums (I know there is a Q7 staff, sword, axe and hammer on sale all in High End). I will post screenshots later of all the lowest reqs I've seen (or somebody else can post them as well and save me some time :-D).

EDIT: Changed all the Q#'s to Req #'s so as to stop all the QQ'ing about Q vs req...This thread is supposed to be a list of reqs, not a bunch of people worrying about proper grammar, etc. on forums pertaining to an online game!

~Tru

Req7 Staves - Seen 2 or 3
Req7 Hammers - 4 to my knowledge (which is fairly vast

)
Req7 Axes - deff less then 50
Req7 Swords - shit loads
Req7 Bows - Doesn't exist, req8 is the lowest.
Req7 Foci - few and far between
Req7 Wands - Req8 is the lowest I've seen with dual mods. I could be wrong, my memory fails me sometimes.

Req8 is the lowest req no negs come in. Only a few left uncustomized though. Ignore all the high ends idiots who post "last one in game" they're spreading BS.

I can pretty much answer any question you have. Shoot me a PM if need be.

BTW herb doesn't play anymore. He long since departed for WoW. Pretty rich man from what I here too

Yawgmoth · Apr 30, 2008, 11:42 PM // 23:42

Nice req.7 staff, I've found it in HighEnd a minute after my post.

But can a req.8 inscribable one exist?

I've seen 2 different req.8 staffs that dropped after NF release (they have 20%HSR all spells) but both were Canthan.

So if there are no differences in base stats generation for items inscribable and not, we can assume there is a possibility for inscribable req.8 axe, hammer and staff.

Now a question:: has anyone seen a max (20%/+10/11-22/any req) *purple* inscribable staff??

it seems all of them are a little off, either 11-21 or 19 or even 18% HSR, I haven't seen a max purp insc. one in desipite
But I've actually seen a max 20%/+10/11-22 Purple staff drop in tyria this year. It may be just a very rare occurence possible anywhere or it may be exclusive to non-insc. staffs.

(This is all just to find an evidence for the base item stat generation formulas working different for inscribables than for noninscribables.)

Malice Black · Apr 30, 2008, 11:46 PM // 23:46

It should be possible as you can get max purple melee items. Never had one drop for me that I can remember though. I haven't played in god knows how long though.

LifeInfusion · Apr 30, 2008, 11:51 PM // 23:51

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

Just who really cares about low req weapons in general, unless it's a shield. The only time low req matters is when you run a 14-11-9 spec assassin, with 9 dagger mastery. But regardless, anyone who runs 7-8 weapon mastery is an idiot.

OHAI I CAN RUN 7 SWORDSMANSHIP SO THAT I GET 12 IN HEALING AND 15 IN STRENGTH FOR DOLYAK SIGNET LOLOL.

Warriors, Dervishes, Assassins don't have an excuse since most of the damage comes from the weapon and +damages, but utility Rangers and Paragons (and casters) do have reason to run low req. For example, Wilderness Survival dominant rangers can run 8 weapon mastery when using incendiary arrows and choking gas which usually runs around 11 wilderness and expertise (both need high wilderness and/or expertise). Ebon Dust Aura rangers would probably do the same as well as Splinter barragers. Paragons that are dumping remaining points into Spearmastery would do the same.

Assassins that usually don't rely on dagger mastery for the +damage wouldn't be using daggers (unless it is to trigger deadly arts offhand/duals).

Frankly, staves are the worst low req to buy since the only thing that scales is the damage from wanding.

KartMan · May 01, 2008, 07:27 AM // 07:27

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

Nice req.7 staff, I've found it in HighEnd a minute after my post.

But can a req.8 inscribable one exist?

I've seen 2 different req.8 staffs that dropped after NF release (they have 20%HSR all spells) but both were Canthan.

So if there are no differences in base stats generation for items inscribable and not, we can assume there is a possibility for inscribable req.8 axe, hammer and staff.

Now a question:: has anyone seen a max (20%/+10/11-22/any req) *purple* inscribable staff??

it seems all of them are a little off, either 11-21 or 19 or even 18% HSR, I haven't seen a max purp insc. one in desipite
But I've actually seen a max 20%/+10/11-22 Purple staff drop in tyria this year. It may be just a very rare occurence possible anywhere or it may be exclusive to non-insc. staffs.

(This is all just to find an evidence for the base item stat generation formulas working different for inscribables than for noninscribables.)

I do have this, pretty close to perfect :/

_Todeshand_ · May 02, 2008, 03:38 PM // 15:38

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

Req7 Staves - Seen 2 or 3
Req7 Hammers - 4 to my knowledge (which is fairly vast

)
Req7 Axes - deff less then 50
Req7 Swords - shit loads
Req7 Bows - Doesn't exist, req8 is the lowest.
Req7 Foci - few and far between
Req7 Wands - Req8 is the lowest I've seen with dual mods. I could be wrong, my memory fails me sometimes.

Req8 is the lowest req no negs come in. Only a few left uncustomized though. Ignore all the high ends idiots who post "last one in game" they're spreading BS.

Did ya call me an idiot?

req7 Hammers: Know one, heard of 3 others.
req7 Axes: Know about 9 or so.
req7 Swords, Shields, Foci: Know many, have seen many.
req7 Bows: Never seen one.
req7 Daggers: Never seen any ingame. But this. Believe it's a fake though.
req7 Wands: Never seen or heard of any.
req7 Staffs: Know 2. One's in High End atm. That's the other one.
req8 inscr.:
Swords, Shields, Foci: Know many.
Axes: Never seen one. My guildie Eir Of Asgards says that he's seen one. Possibly 6-26

Staffs, Wands, Scythes, Spears, Bows, Daggers: Don't know any.

Glazen Blade · May 02, 2008, 05:12 PM // 17:12

As far as q7 hammers go ive seen warhammer q7 15^50
also a plagueborn or something with a swuare head been a while since i seen it but it was 14^50
and a 15% stance q7 war hammer pvp skin

as far as axes go theres more than people think the just pop up randomly from the oddest places but still no more than 20 maybe 30 of em i seen about 11 my self

undeadgun · May 03, 2008, 04:33 AM // 04:33

Bows: Req 7 Shortbow gold max 15>50, been sold while ago, can confirm on this one

Pleikki · May 03, 2008, 06:40 AM // 06:40

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Non-inscribables:
Sword - Req 7 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10282942)
Axe - Req 7 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10282942)
Hammer - Req 7 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10282942)
Bow - Req 8? <- r7 Excist
Daggers - Req 8? <- r7 Excist
Staff - Req 7 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10284168)
Wand - Req 8? <- r7 Excist
Focus - Req 7
Shield - Req 7

Inscribables:
Sword - Req 8
Axe - Req 9? <- r8 Excist
Hammer - Req 9? <- r8
Bow - Req 9? <- r8
Daggers - Req 9?
Staff - Req 9? <- r8
Wand - Req 9?
Focus - Req 8
Shield - Req 8
Spear - Req 9? <- r8
Scythe - Req 9?

Those i've seen atleast if i remember right Not golds all though
-Pleikki

Crom The Pale · May 03, 2008, 11:53 AM // 11:53

We've lost quite a few of the high end items to players leaving the game...

One of the richest I know was Ugly Monk From Hell, haven't seen him on in months and I know for a fact he had a large collection of req7/8 swords wands/offhands including a R8 15% stance crystaline sword.

Shakkara · May 03, 2008, 03:36 PM // 15:36

Now the big question: Do they still drop?

IattackU · May 04, 2008, 02:12 AM // 02:12

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Originally Posted by Shakkara

Now the big question: Do they still drop?

This question = impossible to answer. Either you have to go find a max req 7 or 8 gold. Or, you have to have Anet come out and officially say (with proof) that they don't. Good luck either way.

manitoba1073 · May 04, 2008, 04:44 AM // 04:44

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Originally Posted by IattackU

This question = impossible to answer. Either you have to go find a max req 7 or 8 gold. Or, you have to have Anet come out and officially say (with proof) that they don't. Good luck either way.

Anet has already came out and said yes they still drop.

wilderness · May 04, 2008, 04:49 AM // 04:49

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Originally Posted by manitoba1073

Anet has already came out and said yes they still drop.

No, the best we've got was something like:

I asked the GMs if they still drop and they said yes, but I didn't want to bug them with specifics like damage levels, skins etc..

Or something just as unhelpful. We know that blue req 7 shields drop with 15 armour, great for casters and We know that req 8 inscription golds drop max, so how do we know this isn't what the GM or whoever was referring to?

All I know is, that out of my entire friends list and alliance (some of these people being in some very big PvE guilds, very active and hardcore players/famers/etc..), not one person has seen a q7 or q8 GOLD MAX INHERENT item drop for months and months.

I go on about this a lot, I know... it's problem I got.

zamial · May 04, 2008, 09:07 AM // 09:07

As I understand. There was a update (not documented in the wiki.)

MAX req7 weapons NO longer drop in the game.This was done at the same time as the dual damage reduction mods on max shields was removed from dropping. After followed the the Fiery Flame Spitter nerf making it only possible to get a 10% bonus previously 15% and the Rockmolder nerf that hit all Rockmolders that HAD dropped and that will to date.

This only applies to MAX Damage, PERFECT weapons.

At this point req.8 max perfect items DO still drop, very rarely.

I may be wrong, I have no proof. I have yet to see a real recent screen shot disproving my above statments.

manitoba1073 · May 04, 2008, 09:47 AM // 09:47

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Originally Posted by zamial

As I understand. There was a update (not documented in the wiki.)

MAX req7 weapons NO longer drop in the game.This was done at the same time as the dual damage reduction mods on max shields was removed from dropping. After followed the the Fiery Flame Spitter nerf making it only possible to get a 10% bonus previously 15% and the Rockmolder nerf that hit all Rockmolders that HAD dropped and that will to date.

This only applies to MAX Damage, PERFECT weapons.

At this point req.8 max perfect items DO still drop, very rarely.

I may be wrong, I have no proof. I have yet to see a real recent screen shot disproving my above statments.

heres your proof

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10259274

reading can be a good thing.

zamial · May 04, 2008, 02:59 PM // 14:59

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Originally Posted by manitoba1073

heres your proof

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10259274

reading can be a good thing.

A picture is worth a thousand words. Not that I don't trust Gaile's word but. . . .
A screen shot of a max sword with someone in current armor and the chat window open with the drop would be better proof. Also I was not talking about a max req 7 weapon, I was talking about a PERFECT, MAX req 7. an example of this would be a sword that is 15-22 with a 15^50 mod or an inscription slot. Max to many refers to the damage mod.